Project Brogoon

[squeethebee]

Ah dammit, I want an SS clutch line. :(

ed

[98Wagoon]

Got it super cheap a while ago. Too good of a deal to pass up so its just been waiting like all me other bits and pieces.

[squeethebee]

I hope to start collecting things in the new year, hopefully I can then get them all in before the world ends.

ed

[98Wagoon]

Id like to think at the very least the wagoon will be ready in time to be a sweet Mad Max car..

[Berge56]

Are you going to balete the delay valve on the clutch slave?

[98Wagoon]

I was curious about it and was planning to ask about it soon since I've seen it done but never bothered to ask what it was about.

But since you asked, maybe.. pros/cons?

[yaya]

Pros - More direct/firmer pedal, more consistent clutch engagement.

Cons - ?

I did Berge's and will be doing one again for myself soon.

[98Wagoon]

Those are things I find acceptable.. how difficult of an operation is it?

[yaya]

Unbolt delay valve, make line from master-slave (two 10mm banjo fittings and one -3an line).

About $30 + shipping

[98Wagoon]

Hm. Doesn't sound awful, I would guess there's walkthrough's out there? I'll have to look into it. Fortunately I have time :unamused:

[yaya]

There are bits and pieces of a walkthrough out there. Check my old journal, you can see how I modded the slave, then you just need part numbers to order stuff for the line.

[98Wagoon]

Sounds good. I'll check into it. Thanks

[hiprsha666]

yaya linked this to me in his thread

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1855826

[yaya]

^That.

[Seraphinwolf]

You decide on giving up or not yet? Cause I still say stick it out!

[apkarian100]

I say give in. You will be working on this project for years to come, and it won't be finished soon.

[Seraphinwolf]

He's not missing much. What he IS screwing himself on it keeping it in a storage unit to the tune of $100/month that could be paying to finish it...

[apkarian100]

It's still a lot of little things to install, many of which turbo related. He wouldn't have to invest that time in if he wasn't putting in a terbro.He's not missing much. What he IS screwing himself on it keeping it in a storage unit to the tune of $100/month that could be paying to finish it...

[hiprsha666]

In any case cars without turbos are cooler....

[Seraphinwolf]

Only starting at 6 cylinders and up... Of which case get cooler with boooooost!!!!

[Seraphinwolf]

Boooooooooooooooooooosstttttttttt

[98Wagoon]

because so many people are against it Im almost 100% set on boost delete.



and wagoon delete.


Ive assessed the rust and what I have left to do to get this remotely running. Im still quite a ways away aside from lack of interest in a turbo build with everyone blowing theirs up lately, and other factors, Im much more interested in building an engine for the 03 and parting this out. if I revisit the turbo swap wagon idea in the future, I will start with a whole wrx/sti instead of slowly piecing together a million little things and finding that Im always missing half of what I need..

[apkarian100]

I like this.

[RCKSTR]

I :wub: lamp... and wagoon... :truestory:

[apkarian100]

You like this
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1518797136592&id=6f1d66659ca63b3b717fc655de617c2f

and this

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/190275_10150417917765371_788150370_17230562_669314 3_n.jpg

you say?
I :wub: lamp... and wagoon... :truestory:

[1982gl4]

because so many people are against it Im almost 100% set on boost delete.



and wagoon delete.


Ive assessed the rust and what I have left to do to get this remotely running. Im still quite a ways away aside from lack of interest in a turbo build with everyone blowing theirs up lately, and other factors, Im much more interested in building an engine for the 03 and parting this out. if I revisit the turbo swap wagon idea in the future, I will start with a whole wrx/sti instead of slowly piecing together a million little things and finding that Im always missing half of what I need..

This sounds like a better plan. piecing together swaps suck. :unamused:

[98Wagoon]

You like this
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1518797136592&id=6f1d66659ca63b3b717fc655de617c2f

and this

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/190275_10150417917765371_788150370_17230562_669314 3_n.jpg

you say?


I agree with this 100%


This sounds like a better plan. piecing together swaps suck. :unamused:

:truestory: every time I think "hey, I've got everything for (insert stuff) I then realize I'm missing 4 little things that you cant find unless you had a whole parts car. I know I'll go back someday and do it, but right now I know what I will have fun with reliably. And it won't be the wagoon.

[Seraphinwolf]

Motors are blowing because of bad tunes and bad oil.... Not the turbos.

[98Wagoon]

I don't think a single one lately has been a bad tune. Eric's got 80k? On his tune.. that's pretty ****ing solid tuning.

[jwebsta32]

I don't think a single one lately has been a bad tune. Eric's got 80k? On his tune.. that's pretty ****ing solid tuning.

I agree on the no bad tunes.

[Seraphinwolf]

I'm talking about what we've seen at the shop. Mostly 08'+s or older stock motors that gave up the ghost from over years. The newer ones are mostly too rich and then damages the pistons.

[98Wagoon]

:squint:

[squeethebee]

This sounds like a better plan. piecing together swaps suck. :unamused:

:squint:

I thought the solution to rust was supreme power?

ed

[Joe]

:squint:

I thought the solution to rust was supreme power?

ed

No Ed. The best fix for rust is a H6, twinscroll and big turbo.

[squeethebee]

But Joe, you repeat me...

Brogoon, I demand pics of this "rust" that is too much for you to conquer.

ed

[Joe]

But Joe, you repeat me...

Brogoon, I demand pics of this "rust" that is too much for you to conquer.

ed

I was simply clarifying it for the masses. Also, yes to rust photos. And also pics of you welding the rust with no gas turned on, B3M-style.

[Seraphinwolf]

No Ed. The best fix for rust is a H6, twinscroll and big turbo.

Best cure for rust is widebody. And FYI I only have one rusty car, the L.

[98Wagoon]

The svx is pretty rusty, dont lie..



:hide:

[Seraphinwolf]

I only some rust on the doors.

[Seraphinwolf]

So when are you gonna update this with your new plan?

[98Wagoon]

No plans. None. Car crushers. Explosives. Part outs. Etc. :hide:

[1982gl4]

No plans. None. Car crushers. Explosives. Part outs. Etc. :hide:

1)Sell everything
2)get something new
3)....
4)profit???

[98Wagoon]

I'm not that smart unfortunately.


Sell everything
buy vtec.
??.?.!
Profit?

[1982gl4]

I'm not that smart unfortunately.


Sell everything
buy vtec.
??.?.!
Profit?

It's okay I put loads of time and money into things that should never be fixed. It happens :lol:

[Berge56]

sell as rolling chassy?

[98Wagoon]

No car selling anymore. I just want zero turbos. I'm loooking for some vtec yo if someone buys my Turbo crap...

[Seraphinwolf]

No he's keeping the car... Just being very bad at secretive change in direction. :rolleyes:

[DHGurs]

What kind of vtech?

[98Wagoon]

My vtech goes riiiiing riiiiiiiiing?

[1982gl4]

NA powah???

[Berge56]

H6 from gaddis?

[1982gl4]

One of these!
http://www.oocities.org/subarushrine/subaruflat12.jpg

[Seraphinwolf]

No he's over complicating NA 2.5 with a 253 and wants the AVLS active and tune on a factory ECU. (05'+ are tuneable with 06'+being ACLS equipped)

[Seraphinwolf]

One of these!
http://www.oocities.org/subarushrine/subaruflat12.jpg

There is only one... It's in NJ... And only 2.2L's. Silly Formula 1 open class motors...

[98Wagoon]

No he's over complicating NA 2.5 with a 253 and wants the AVLS active and tune on a factory ECU. (05'+ are tuneable with 06'+being ACLS equipped)

No.
One of these!
http://www.oocities.org/subarushrine/subaruflat12.jpg

This.

[98Wagoon]

Torbo junk hath been sold. Commence redirect?

[1982gl4]

Frankenmotor time? :hide:

[98Wagoon]

Might not be anything crazy for a bit. Decisions have to be made soon..

[-III]

DD it!

[hiprsha666]

Turbo that **** brah.

[Seraphinwolf]

No he's over complicating NA 2.5 with a 253 and wants the AVLS active and tune on a factory ECU. (05'+ are tuneable with 06'+being ACLS equipped)
This...

[hiprsha666]

Turbo that ****.

[98Wagoon]

"Overcomplicating"

Hm.. from the guy with the h6?

A high compression NA with built heads isn't complicated at all, sir.

[hiprsha666]

Turbo that ****.

[98Wagoon]

Thats too much powers for me. Sub 200hp please.

[Seraphinwolf]

More work than the WRX swap for less result...

[hiprsha666]

Turbo that ****.

[98Wagoon]

I don't want a turbo. Nor do I care about high horsepower. Furthermore, the 253 will be fully capable of stock wrx power when even mildly doe up. That is plenty of power when you plan to do more than be a cock that only drives in straight lines. Or mad ill highway pulls.. brah..

[-III]

Turbo that ****.

[98Wagoon]

I'll get right on that.

[hiprsha666]

Turbo that ****.

[hiprsha666]

Brah

[apkarian100]

Don't turbo that **** brah

[DHGurs]

LS1 swap

[98Wagoon]

Needs more vvt-i

[hiprsha666]

Turbo that **** brotato.

[apkarian100]

Kind sir, I highly recommend you not implement a turbine in your precious automobile you call your Wagoon.

[98Wagoon]

ITB's. No more, no less.

[hiprsha666]

Turbo that **** brotato.

[apkarian100]

:ay:ITB's. No more, no less.

[DHGurs]

Independent throttle bodies in the butt?

[98Wagoon]

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DctyBOEk3L9Q&v=ctyBOEk3L9Q&gl=US


http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=42rN2BYDXSc

[98Wagoon]

Fail..


Oh well.

[Seraphinwolf]

I'll work on fixing these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctyBOEk3L9Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42rN2BYDXSc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[TurboRush]

I don't want a turbo. Nor do I care about high horsepower. Furthermore, the 253 will be fully capable of stock wrx power when even mildly doe up. That is plenty of power when you plan to do more than be a cock that only drives in straight lines. Or mad ill highway pulls.. brah..

Why so angry about people with turbo and high horsepower? Not everyone that has power instantly drives like a cock and only in straight lines doing highway pulls. Narrow world you live in?

[Seraphinwolf]

^This.
He can always SC it when it running.

[Joe]

Why so angry about people with turbo and high horsepower? Not everyone that has power instantly drives like a cock and only in straight lines doing highway pulls. Narrow world you live in?


This.

HOWEVER, i know what it's like to want something the vast majority wants. I constantly get **** for keeping the six in the dakota(well technically its next to the dakota. :lol:)


I think the main point is this: Do what your gonna do, and don't worry what others say. BUT, don't be grumpy when you get constant 'turbo it' commments on a forum that is 90% turboed.


Also, hurry up! :hide:








infinity dicks

[Joe]

Oh, and for the love of god please don't listen to anything Gaddis says. please.

[Berge56]

Slap some vtec in that *****..... *****es love vtec!

[Seraphinwolf]

Oh, and for the love of god please don't listen to anything Gaddis says. please.

Just because I change what I say every 20mins doesn't mean it shouldn't be listened to... :hide:

And I support the idea of the 253. But I don't think he'll stop there.
Mostly this needs the body work done cause car's no good if it falls apparat at the seams literally.

[Shiux]

Slap some vtec in that *****..... *****es love vtec!

*****es DO love vtec....

[-III]

**** *****es.

[98Wagoon]

Mahlp.

[Berge56]

Maybe this summer you will work on this?

[98Wagoon]

I'll give you a gaddis post..


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/mrangerroy/2012-04-07_15-23-41_570.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/mrangerroy/2012-03-23_16-24-50_687.jpg



then I blew out my back a bit.

[Shiux]

What motor is that?

[98Wagoon]

ej253 out of an 06 saabaru 2.5i with 41k miles on it.

[98Wagoon]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/mrangerroy/2012-03-23_15-34-15_821.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/mrangerroy/2012-03-23_15-33-04_833.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/mrangerroy/2012-03-23_15-32-35_828.jpg

:shrug:

[Berge56]

When is that scheduled to go in?

[98Wagoon]

I dunno.. Im going to have to fix a few small parts on it, thus the other coolant crossover pipe. it would be nice to get the car out, dust it off, and put the engine/drivetrain in sometime soon. I need to get the rest of the interior out and the dash also. basically, I need a place to work on it.. still.. have a few ideas, but for the moment Ive got stuff almost ready. I keep hoping I can bring it back to life for WBM but Im not sure. Ive got at least another $2000 in misc **** to pick up still like harness/radiator/ecu/front axles/hoses/coolant lines/ fuel sending unit etc. we shall see, though.. I was talking to Yint a while back about installing everything, Ive been a bit busy with the hospital and doctors lately so I havent talked to him in a bit, though..

[My25RSL]

i have an STi fuel pump i can let go cheap.

[98Wagoon]

an sti fuel pump is what killed the wagoon in the first place.


I need the whole fuel sending unit because mines broked. the sti fuel pump sitting in the car is probably fine still.

[My25RSL]

you did something wrong then. because according to Bren, you dont need anything extra to run a a higher LPH FP.

[My25RSL]

and mike should have an extra fuel sending unit somewhere. its just a matter of it fitting or not.

[98Wagoon]

:iam:

[98Wagoon]

Soon.



Maybe?




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/mrangerroy/2012-04-13_16-40-34_989.jpg




Gaddispost.jpg

[DHGurs]

Lonely car is lonely.

[98Wagoon]

Its so ronery...

[BogeyBones]

haha just as you described!

[jcovey2.5]

I should have some stuff you need. Just stop by, and while your here you can help drop my motor in :) shoot me a text 2076532630

-Joe

[My25RSL]

:rofl:

he doesnt wanna do his own work. i doubt he'd do yours. ;)

[98Wagoon]

its not that I dont want to help. Im just ****ing useless :lol:

[-III]

Useless guy is useless

[98Wagoon]

haha just as you described!

:sadpanda:


Useless guy is useless


says the other useless guy! :lol:

[-III]

I do some work, just not anything too involved....

[98Wagoon]

same here, dammit!



then it just depends on how lazy I feel....

[-III]

HUZAAH

[DHGurs]

snarf

[98Wagoon]

IMPORTANT UPDATE!



while laying in bed I thought about a part I needed for this car.

but then I forgot because I fell asleep.


update.

[My25RSL]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[hiprsha666]

Neat

[Seraphinwolf]

So here's a problem you might not thought of.... The fuel system. The 2.5i is a non-return fuel system...

[98Wagoon]

I can run new lines. they sell stuff like that.. I believe its called.. fuel lines.... I knew they were different I just wasnt going to care until I had the interior/dash out and I could look into what to do and where my current lines are run. I already need a new fuel sending unit because mines junk anyhow so running new lines while my interior is gutted probably wont be too difficult. maybe steel lines and AN fittings CUZ IM A PIMP ASS HO!


:iam:

[Seraphinwolf]

No new lines... it's just the fuel sending unit and electronics for the fuel controller.

[98Wagoon]

I assume the electronics portion will be covered by the bulkhead harness and ecu. and like I said, I need a sending unit cuz mines busted anyway :lol:

[Seraphinwolf]

Well best talk to Dave... Cause I'm not sure i'd see you finding the right one used.

[98Wagoon]

Yar. I don't think I can get a harness from where I got my engine unfortunately, and a new one is like ~$750+. Might just take the hit and buy a new one knowing it will be 100%. Before I chop it up, that is.. :hide:

[Seraphinwolf]

I was talking about the fuel sending unit but yeah bulkhead/chassis harness might have to do the same thing. :-/

[Berge56]

yea pics! Figure out your **** quick so the car is roadworthy!

[98Wagoon]

working on ittttt.


ps berge, do you remember which shifter bushing I needed? my birthday is coming and getting that from someone would make me a happy wagoooon.

[Berge56]

You should just need the rear one that bolts to the car. And when is your bday?

[98Wagoon]

4/25

thats what I thought I needed. I'll go lurk a few different ones and check prices later tonight. one less piece I have to buy myself :lol:

what sucks is my brother had one for the 5mt that he never put into his wrx. I think he sold it with his sts a few months ago..

[Berge56]

The 5 and 6 speed rear bushings are the same btw. :)

[DHGurs]

I know someone with an extra STi rear bushing that he would trade for a 6 pack.

[98Wagoon]

:orly:


would it be the same handsome gentleman I need to visit this week already?

[DHGurs]

Possibree, it should be in my box of wonders in storage.

[98Wagoon]

whelp, I was going to see what you were up too either tomorrow afternoon or friday anyway, Im making a sale and those dollhairs were going to go to you anyway. we can sext about it later, though.

[DHGurs]

Friday I'll be around. Tomorrow I'll be up near Canada delivering a car.

[98Wagoon]

:yao:




then we gotta get down on friiiiday