Me and my baby...Subaru WRX GR

[Seraphinwolf]

this is correct! since our turbos are water cooled we don't need the turbo timers as other models do since not all are water cooled ;)
Mine's not water cooled. :hide:

IIRC if you get a remote starter most have a turbo timer feature.

[Seraphinwolf]

what's the difference between the normal OEM factory position turbo and just upgrading that turbo vs upgrading to a rotated turbo?
Lets start by responding to a question with a question. Which turbos are you looking at?-

[Seraphinwolf]

Taking to FB chat.

[98Wagoon]

meh.

[wrxtuner82]

ATP Bolt on GT3076R

[Seraphinwolf]

I just don't see it hitting the 450-500 you want. Not, like I said, without meth.

[wrxtuner82]

Not a fan of meth. Could be wrong but I don't think Brian is running meth, and everything I've read hasn't showed many cars in the 450-500 running meth

[hiprsha666]

you're just afraid to become addicted. It is understandable.

[Seraphinwolf]

Check the tech forum for the Meth threads. You'll want Meth to hit those numbers.

[wrxtuner82]

I don't have an interest in allowing meth to **** up my engine

[jwebsta32]

You want 450-500 on a wrx trans hahaha, also there is nothing wrong with meth if you have the proper fail safes.

[wrxtuner82]

You want 450-500 on a wrx trans hahaha, also there is nothing wrong with meth if you have the proper fail safes.


I'm listening....

And btw, my friend Chad back in 2002 had a himself a 2002 WRX wagon and was making 450....so.....next

[hiprsha666]

450 whp or bhp?

[Seraphinwolf]

I still want more info on that car. Not sure how in 03' he was gettin the results he was and with the budget of a radio installer. :shrug:

[hiprsha666]

he was obviously running meth..... :rofl: :hide:



j/k

[wrxtuner82]

I'm not sure how Chad did a lot of things with his budget?? It baffles me to this day. Only thing I could come up with was I know he had awesome credit and about 9 credit cards with high limits, and like I said, he was famous for buying, building and near immediately selling.

[wrxtuner82]

450 whp or bhp?
wheel is all that matters

[wrxtuner82]

I've been trying to catch up with Chad for 2 years trying to find out what he'd done to that car. Car was amazing. It's what lead me here. Otherwise I'd probably be trying to trick a Honda Accord instead.

[hiprsha666]

Well, if he has an estimated 450 bhp then it would be more reasonable to run a stock 5mt. 450whp is a much different story. idk. He really ran that much on a stock 5mt?

[Seraphinwolf]

Well I'm gonna say that Meth is actually the "safe" route for your goals. You key the system to only spray when you are in higher boost and have a large enough tank that you won't run out from getting BOV frisky going to the grocery store.
Really have a read and you'll find it's the safest means of still being on pump gas and managing those high numbers.

[Seraphinwolf]

I've been trying to catch up with Chad for 2 years trying to find out what he'd done to that car. Car was amazing. It's what lead me here. Otherwise I'd probably be trying to trick a Honda Accord instead.
I blame Arty for the end of that statement... :hide:

[DHGurs]

All this talk of 450 BHP is getting me excited... (ghost edit)

[wrxtuner82]

Well I'm gonna say that Meth is actually the "safe" route for your goals. You key the system to only spray when you are in higher boost and have a large enough tank that you won't run out from getting BOV frisky going to the grocery store.
Really have a read and you'll find it's the safest means of still being on pump gas and managing those high numbers.
Crawford did say that it's near impossible to run 500 on pump gas. When we do my install in June, I foresee us talking about this during the day/night. I mean, meth isn't something that's coming up before I come home permanently in September, so I have some time to learn, and I can be educated much better in person with you guys

[Seraphinwolf]

We'll go over all the options and help map out the future! :up:

[98Wagoon]

All this talk of 450 BHP is getting me excited... (ghost edit)



:iam:


Im staying out of this cuz I dont know anything. :spin:

[wrxtuner82]

We'll go over all the options and help map out the future! :up:
Mmmmm, the future. As long as this new job pans out, the future holds a lot. Including the possibility of a new block

[Seraphinwolf]

:iam:


Im staying out of this cuz I dont know anything. :spin:
Quoted for truth. :p





J/K :wub:

[98Wagoon]

:shrug:

[wrxtuner82]

I blame Arty for the end of that statement... :hide:
You can blame Arty, Matt House and the rest of the Epping NH cool kids for that last statement

[Seraphinwolf]

You can blame Arty, Matt House and the rest of the Epping NH cool kids for that last statement
Remember before 2Fast 2Furious came out and the "Hey you heard about the sequal to The Fast and the Furious? It's called The Slow and the Curious and filmed in Epping!" :rofl:

[wrxtuner82]

About 3 weeks after the first and the furious came out, me and my brother were in the ben franklins parking lot in Raymond when we heard a bunch of fart cans on 102. In pulled like 9 Honda accords/civics, all with some ****ty muffler and an unpainted body kit. They thought they were the hottest things. Matt house was their little "leader" and says to one of them, "hey, we having our tuner cook out sunday". These guys were literally trying to be just like the movie. Disgusted me.

[Seraphinwolf]

It's Raymond/Epping... You expected more? And Dan's not one to talk with his crome door trim and bling bling wheels on the Jeep! :lol:

[wrxtuner82]

It's Raymond/Epping... You expected more? And Dan's not one to talk with his crome door trim and bling bling wheels on the Jeep! :lol:
Did you ever see his Topaz?

[Seraphinwolf]

I might have but I don't thinks so. If I did it would have been like at the corner of South and 111a in passing.

[jwebsta32]

I'm listening....

And btw, my friend Chad back in 2002 had a himself a 2002 WRX wagon and was making 450....so.....next


I was making 330 at the wheels on a 5 speed and look what happened. There are plenty of people and evidence out there that supports high HP on a 5 speed grenading. Look at Civicsi or who ever went to PPG on his five speed that blew up. If you are going to build this giant 450 HP monster you might as well build some sort of reliable drive train for it...:iam:..........next

[apkarian100]

+1. 450 hp is scary on a 5 speed. I wouldn't, unless you are hoping for a blown tranny. I was making 330 at the wheels on a 5 speed and look what happened. There are plenty of people and evidence out there that supports high HP on a 5 speed grenading. Look at Civicsi or who ever went to PPG on his five speed that blew up. If you are going to build this giant 450 HP monster you might as well build some sort of reliable drive train for it...:iam:..........next

[wrxtuner82]

new transmission is about $8k......little outside my budget

[Berge56]

what??!! I just bought a 6 speed for 2600 shipped a few weeks ago.

[wrxtuner82]

what'd install cost you? Did you switch up from 5 speed to 6? Cause that means new drivetrain too

[hiprsha666]

Even with all the other drivetrain elements $8K seems like a lot. Is that for all new parts?

[Berge56]

$beer. I installed everything myself with some friends.

[wrxtuner82]

$beer. I installed everything myself with some friends.
All I really got out of that was "blah blah blah, you need to get with me" :lol:

And yes, new parts. Wouldn't even know where to start for used or whether or not I should trust it?

[wrxtuner82]

Oh and, IB4GADDISSAYSTRADEINFORANSTI

[Berge56]

used is fine. Ask randy about going with new parts. :lol:

All you need is the 6 speed (linkage, 6 speed clutch and flywheel sometimes come with the 6mt) compatible rear diff for your 6mt and driveshaft. Then if you want to control your DCCD look into the DCCD pro unit. You can do the whole swap for 4k.

There is a 6mt swap trhead on here..... http://www.newenglandsubarus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13187&highlight=swap+thread

If you want to pay me 8k I will do it all for you. :lol:

[hiprsha666]

lol, thats kind of my thinking though for my car. At least for now I won't do a 6mt swap. Too expensive for my taste.

If you do it, it would be badass of course.

[Joe]

2008+ 6 speeds can be had for 3-4K dollars on ebay. much smarter.


onces again, i give you life-altering info. :lol:

[Berge56]

All in all my entire 6 speed swap, 05 6mt w/46k, R160 rear diff with 3.90, mystery JDM drivesahft brand new oem flywheel, clutch and upgraded shifter bushings will be done for under 3500. Way cheaper, more reliable and stronger then ppg's or any other 5mt alternative.

[Berge56]

2008+ 6 speeds can be had for 3-4K dollars on ebay. much smarter.


onces again, i give you life-altering info. :lol:

:rofl:

[hiprsha666]

$3500 aint bad man.

[Berge56]

:D I found some smoking deals. Just have to be patient and find the right one.

Had my 6 speed came with a flywheel and clutch it would have been 3k even.

[yaya]

All in all my entire 6 speed swap, 05 6mt w/46k, R160 rear diff with 3.90, mystery JDM drivesahft brand new oem flywheel, clutch and upgraded shifter bushings will be done for under 3500. Way cheaper, more reliable and stronger then ppg's or any other 5mt alternative.

Don't forget selling of the still good 5MT.

[hiprsha666]

ooh snap. I forgot about that. :up:

[Berge56]

:spin: I totally forgot about that..... so it really costs me 2400. :hide:

[Seraphinwolf]

Oh and, IB4GADDISSAYSTRADEINFORANSTI
I finished with that when you were still looking at new cars during "The Tree Fiasco!"
The newer transmissions are based on the LGT ones and hold way better BUT 450 is gonna murder the 5.

People who are quoting prices have to remember this is an 08'. 08'+ use a redesign in the trans and unless he wants to get a GDB 6speed and trade out the bell housing or find a Spec B trans the 6 is gonna cost him more.

I will play devil's advocate on reminding you about the DCCD though Connor.

[jwebsta32]

I finished with that when you were still looking at new cars during "The Tree Fiasco!"
The newer transmissions are based on the LGT ones and hold way better BUT 450 is gonna murder the 5.

People who are quoting prices have to remember this is an 08'. 08'+ use a redesign in the trans and unless he wants to get a GDB 6speed and trade out the bell housing or find a Spec B trans the 6 is gonna cost him more.

I will play devil's advocate on reminding you about the DCCD though Connor.

2008+ 6 speeds can be had for 3-4K dollars on ebay. much smarter.


onces again, i give you life-altering info. :lol:



:iam:

[Seraphinwolf]

$3k for A transmission. Not everything for a swap.

[Bu11dogg2]

new transmission is about $8k......little outside my budget
where are you getting 8k from?

my tranny, brand new with DCCD and linkage was $5500.

[Bu11dogg2]

FYI


2008/09/10 WRX

2008 STi 6 speed manual
1st 3.636
2nd 2.235
3rd 1.521
4th, 1.137
5th 0.097
6th 0.756
Front final gear ratio: 3.9
Rear final gear ratio: 3.545


2009 STI 6 speed manual
1st 3.636
2nd 2.235
3rd 1.521
4th, 1.137
5th 0.097
6th 0.756
Front final gear ratio: 3.9
Rear final gear ratio: 3.545

2010 STI 6 speed manual
1st 3.636
2nd 2.235
3rd 1.521
4th, 1.137
5th 0.971
6th 0.756
Front final gear ratio: 3.9
Rear final gear ratio: 3.545



Swapping a 2008-10 6 Speed into your 08/09/10 WRX



Option 1:

1. 2008-2010 STi Transmission
2. 2008-2010 STi Drive Shaft
3. 2008-2010 STi Transmission mounts
4. 2008-2010 STi linkage COMPLETE including reverse lockout
5. 2008-2010 STi R180
6. 2008-2010 STi Front/Rear Axles
7. 2008-2010 STi Front/Rear Hubs
8. 2008-2010 STi Clutch?????? (might be able to run stock?)
9. DCCD Controller
10. Sti brakes

Option 2.

1. 2008-2010 STi Transmission
2. 2008-2010 STi Drive Shaft
3. 2008-2010 STi Transmission mounts
4. 2008-2010 STi linkage COMPLETE including reverse lockout
5. 2008-2010 STi R180
6. Custom Rear Axles
7. DCCD Controller
8. 2008-2010 STi Clutch?????? (might be able to run stock?)




Option 3: (not 100% positive on this)(need to confirm if front axles will line up)

1. 2006/07 sti tranny
2. Auto wrx/93-2001 auto drive shaft (need to confirm fitment with R160)
3. dccd controller
4. 6 speed Trans mounts
5. Complete linkage, frame work for the shift assembly, reverse lockout tidbits.
6. Your stock or aftermarket clutch
7. Something to make the speedo work? 08+ trans dont use a speed sensor
8. Front axle circlips??? Need confirmation


Option 4 (not 100% positive on this)
1. 2004/05sti tranny
2. 2004/05 sti drive shaft
3. dccd controller
4. 6 speed Trans mounts
5. Complete linkage, frame work for the shift assembly, reverse lockout tidbits.
6. STi clutch (complete)
7. Something to make the speedo work? 08+ trans dont use a speed sensor
8. Front axle circlips??? (Need confirmation)
9. R180
10. 04 wrx rear hubs (not sure if this work) or custom axles from driveshaftshop.com
11. 04/05 sti rear axles (if swapping hubs)

[apkarian100]

Is there some super special Cosworth, Rallispec, SubaruJDMSTIRATypeRSpecCGenuineWRCsuperawesome tranny I don't know about that costs that costs 8k??

[jwebsta32]

$3k for A transmission. Not everything for a swap.


ok and including swap parts its no where near 8g. He wants to pay me 8 g I will install and source EVERYTHING

[Seraphinwolf]

Be wants to pay me that, I would too! :lol:

[jwebsta32]

Why would he pay you to store it in your barn and talk about it and post pics of the parts you have for it?

[Seraphinwolf]

I have no barn. Connor's the one with the barn... Er his dad does but his car's in it.

[wrxtuner82]

Why would he pay you to store it in your barn and talk about it and post pics of the parts you have for it?
:rofl:!!!!!!

I get totally confused when all this **** starts going so crazy. I'm lost now.

[jwebsta32]

**** ide probably do it for 6500

[Berge56]

I'll help ya websta!

[jmb1983]

Websta has herpes, go get him tiger.

[Berge56]

I know.. :wub: he shared them with me at redhook.

[jmb1983]

**** him! They weren't his to share.

[Berge56]

:iam:

[98Wagoon]

Im staying out of this. I drive an automatic.



also. why cant I has jwebstah's aids?

[Seraphinwolf]

Cause they are JMB knock-offs

[Seraphinwolf]

Any orders made yet?

[wrxtuner82]

buying the ACT stage 1 clutch and ACT streetlite flywheel today. That's probably the most expensive part for now. Next paycheck will be brakes

[Seraphinwolf]

:up:

[wrxtuner82]

will the OEM calipers suffice with the DBA 4000 series rotors and Hawk HP pads? Or should i upgrade the calipers? This is really specifically asked to Gary since he has the DBA's and a similar car, but I'm open to all opinions.

[Seraphinwolf]

They will do just fine but you can upgrade the from calipers for cheap to the LGT calipers for more grip! :up: Ask Hipresha about the rears though... :lol: And Gary has DBA 5000's from and 4000's rear like me.

[hiprsha666]

Yes yes, lgt calipers and rotors can be had for the front inexpensively and it is a direct swap. I am still working on some issues with the rears.

[wrxtuner82]

are they any better?

[Seraphinwolf]

We wouldn't suggest them if they weren't.

[wrxtuner82]

rephrase: Are they so much better that they're worth upgrading?

[Seraphinwolf]

Yes. WAY more gripping force. Would be nice if we can get some pictured next to each other but they have more contact surface. Then again you could also go with some 06/07' WRX 4 pots and look nasty kindas of awesome! Not sure about the rears fitting though. The GH chassis changed the rear hubs so it's different with converting some parts.

[wrxtuner82]

I love having disc brakes in the rear, gonna make it so much easier considering everything I've ever owned has been drum in the rear

[Seraphinwolf]

Drums suck but they are cheap and light.

[hiprsha666]

Lgt versus wrx rotor.12.4 vs 11.5

http://tapatalk.com/mu/ad045d04-920f-6021.jpg

Also wider for better venting...

[hiprsha666]

Based on the test fit I did it doesn't require modification of the backing plate either which is nice.

[wrxtuner82]

So, my 3 place gauge pod should be ready soon. What are three gauges I should get for it? Don't bother giving me **** please about getting a gauge pod or where it's located. I just want suggestions for 3 gauges I should get. Thanks guys.

[wrxtuner82]

^^^^^ bump

[Seraphinwolf]

I thought we already settled that one. Oil pressure, boost, and????

[wrxtuner82]

the question marks are what I need to fill :lol: also, what is the most common size? I wanna say 58mm? Whatever is the most common is what is being made, I just can't remember

[squeethebee]

I have 62mm. Oil pressure, oil temp and boost.

ed

[wrxtuner82]

Don't I already have oil temp on my gauge cluster? Not being a dick, I seriously haven't seen my car in almost a year and secondly I'm not sure if an aftermarket is just better than factory

[wrxtuner82]

I just looked back at the emails I've exchanged with the guy making the pod, he makes them to fit 52mm gauges

[hiprsha666]

they make the same gauges in both sizes. When I get my act together I will have boost and oil pressure.

[wrxtuner82]

what's the difference between electrical vs mechanical gauges?

[squeethebee]

Don't I already have oil temp on my gauge cluster? Not being a dick, I seriously haven't seen my car in almost a year and secondly I'm not sure if an aftermarket is just better than factory

I believe that's coolant temp, and it's inaccurate as all get out.

ed

[wrxtuner82]

Yeah, I figured that must be the reason, inaccuracy

[wrxtuner82]

so I'm thinkink oil pressure, boost and air/fuel? Thoughts?

[hiprsha666]

does your DP have an 02 bung? You will need one for a/f

[wrxtuner82]

I have no idea wtf you just said?

[hiprsha666]

O2 bung
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/r-c107-sl-slc-class/355769d1297088485-where-my-o2-sensor-02bunginstall2.jpg

http://www.aemelectronics.com/images/02_bung_weld.jpg

You will need one in your down pipe for the air/fuel gauge. Some come with them, some dont.

[wrxtuner82]

well right now, I'm still rocking the factory DP, but hopefully in time for leave I'll have the Invidia catless

[DHGurs]

Invidia catless has no 02 bung.

[hiprsha666]

My invidia dp does not have a bung, so if you are doing a/f you might want to have it done ahead of time because it is easier that way.

[wrxtuner82]

:rofl: never mind on the a/f

[Seraphinwolf]

AF won't really help you anyways. Go with the oil temp+ pressure, and boost

[wrxtuner82]

Anyone who really knows me knows that I literally CAN NOT stay out of boost. So my question is this. How badly would you suggest a tune after these parts:

Perrin CAI
TurboXS BOV
Invidia catless TBE

[My25RSL]

Anyone who really knows me knows that I literally CAN NOT stay out of boost. So my question is this. How badly would you suggest a tune after these parts:

Perrin CAI
TurboXS BOV
Invidia catless TBE

boost creep...?

[yaya]

Depends, how badly do you want to blow up?

[Joe]

For you, instantly. In fact, have someone else drive the car to the tuner so you don't hit boost.

[Berge56]

Start building a new motor.

[hiprsha666]

dude, think of spending a ****load of money on a new engine then see if you can stay out of boost. Is that 1st-3rd pull really worth the potential/guaranteed issues?

[wrxtuner82]

For you, instantly. In fact, have someone else drive the car to the tuner so you don't hit boost.

I :rolf:'d at this

dude, think of spending a ****load of money on a new engine then see if you can stay out of boost. Is that 1st-3rd pull really worth the potential/guaranteed issues?

^I don't get what you're saying.....yes, I can be retarded, clarify please

[Berge56]

Start building a new motor.

[hiprsha666]

Does the thought of spending a lot of money on rebuilding the engine because of a stupid, preventable mistake, have any effect on your decision to hit boost or not?

[wrxtuner82]

Lmao, okay, so pretty much what everyone is saying is

Parts are fine without tune as long as I stay out of boost

Parts + boost = new motor time

Really I'm just trying to figure if I can make it from my house in Fremont NH to Kinetic which is about 10 miles.......but 08WRXME will probably testify that even 10 miles might be 9.5 miles too far to ask me to stay out of boost

[yaya]

Self discipline. If you can't drive 10 miles and stay out of boost...

[Berge56]

yu rack diciprine.

[hiprsha666]

yu rack diciprine.

this, ror

[wrxtuner82]

it's the dam BOV......it just begs me to hit it

[hiprsha666]

make the bov noise with your mouth. as you drive.


pssssssssssssssssss........ ppptoueusssshhshhhsh

[wrxtuner82]

Alright, so I made an appointment with Kinetic to install my clutch and do a tune, hopefully all in the same day, they're gonna try. Clutch is so bad I'll probably end up trailering the car over there anyways, so no real worries about staying out of boost.

[Seraphinwolf]

Self discipline. If you can't drive 10 miles and stay out of boost...
:hide: Sooo... I'll be driving it FOR him to get tuned?








He can't sit in the driver's seat in nuetral without hitting boost! RICER!
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[wrxtuner82]

It's funny cause it's true

[Seraphinwolf]

Just let me know when you want help clearing the crap from infront, next to, on your car! :up:

[wrxtuner82]

i'll be home saturday night, so i'll be clearing out then

[Seraphinwolf]

*POP*
:cool:
She lives and smells of moth balls!!! Make sure to post up the dyno plot!

[Seraphinwolf]

.... :facepalm: ...... <3k rpm... not Connor...

[DHGurs]

What are you talking to yourself about? :lol:

Do you know what he made?

[Seraphinwolf]

I glances at it but I don't remember exacts. It was around 280-300wft/lbs and 230-250whp. It runs 16lbs on the dyno but was able to see 18 on the street getting into 4th and 5th.
Oh and again Connor... Can't keep he foot held back. Dumb **** can't hold back on that new clutch...

[hiprsha666]

:lol: unreal

[DHGurs]

Awesome! My 08 had tons of torque before 3k, the beauty of a TD04.

[RCKSTR]

So what was done? Clutch plus more or ?

[Seraphinwolf]

Clutch, maybe a flywheel, down pipe and a stage two tune.

[98Wagoon]

:troll:

[Seraphinwolf]

Derp-a-derp... Brakes...

[98Wagoon]

:troll:

[Bu11dogg2]

so... absolutely non of the plan mods other than the clutch got done?

[98Wagoon]

a downpipe.. and some sort of "tune".. thats it..

[Seraphinwolf]

Other mods are getting done this week, bit by bit. Brakes were done yesterday. Springs and some bushings still on agenda to go in...

[98Wagoon]

if by done you mean "taken out of working order" :lol:

[Seraphinwolf]

Shhhh... At least he's getting them done!

[Berge56]

What's new with this piece?

[Seraphinwolf]

Tires. That's about it. He's job hunting and putting a lot of miles on the car in the process.

[hiprsha666]

Yeah, Gary has been settin me up with all kinds of either free or super cheap under $150 mods.

Gary is swell

[Subyspeed]

Tires. That's about it. He's job hunting and putting a lot of miles on the car in the process.

He is probably faking looking for a job just so he can spend more time driving his whip :devil:

How is he liking it with the new mods?

[Berge56]

Tires. That's about it. He's job hunting and putting a lot of miles on the car in the process.


What kind of tires? pics of said tires?

[Joe]

Gaddis: the speaker for the lost.

[BogeyBones]

Gaddis: the speaker for the lost.

:deadhorse:

[Seraphinwolf]

He's looking cheap so I suggested Hancook Ventus V-12's 225/45/17. He has snows and has no intention or budget for ultra high performance tires. The V-12's fit the bill nicely.