Need Job Advice

[Murphy2012]

Alright, so most of ya know I have started to do my MIT (Manager in Training) work with Unos Chicago Bar and Grill. I like it a lot, except the training is gay. Its a 6-8 week program. I have a base salary of 40 k/year. Health, dental, vision. 401k. Cons of the job are that we close at midnight sun-thurs and 12.30 fri-sat.


A few months ago I applied/interviewed for an upcoming meathouse/market in the west side of Manchester. I thought I had the job, and I know the guy thats heading the development of it. They had some issues with the contruction/licenses and such, so they just didnt communicate that with me, which made me think they werent interested. So when the guy found out I had left my old employer and started at Unos, I started recieving phone calls. The CFO of the company wrote me two emails apologizing for the poor communication but still wants me to work for them. I got an offer of 46k/year, Health, dental, vision. 3 weeks PTO. 401k and a 6% take on the company. Also, if the first one does well, others will open. In turn, I will be the "big guy" and just make sure they all run efficiently. This job in manchester would be about another 20 minutes worth of driving, but wouldnt close any later than say 6-7 pm. So, **** that staying up till 3 am just working bull****.


Here is where my dilemma lies. I love the people I am working with/for at Unos. On the other hand, I dont want to work all hours of the night anymore, or deal with training. I would walk into this place and Manch and be the man from day one. As long as its meeting their expected numbers, I would be getting paid and working as much or as little as I would like. Gut feeling is that I want to make the change, but the nice guy in me doesnt want to burn a bridge with a good company.

Also, fall back plan in case the Manchester store fails, is that I would work for the company in a different dept in hooksett, most likely Sales management. Any suggestions/reasoning would be very helpful. Its a great bump in salary, I dont see why I shouldnt do it. Thanks pals! :wherethehellismythumbsupsmileyrandy?:

[jonny-rockets]

you know my vote -> go for the meat market.

less hours, more pay, and discounts on meat. plus the experience of running all that **** yourself.

[Murphy2012]

Any other thoughts? Tricky?

[mdungelman]

Go for the $46k!

[unsakred]

hmm, well I would say go for more money. but im a greedy bastard.

I would consider work environment at this point man.

[FreakBurrito]

Go for the Meat Market!!!!

Seriously!!

Get the job in your pocket first before you quit UNOs. Then explain that you had previously interviewed at the new place, and they took a while to get back to you. You aren't burning bridges by doing this. One is clearly a better option for you.

B-Laps

[Nate8409]

Friggin right go for the meat market.

It is more money. You will be happier with the hours. You will be happier overall.

I would do it in a second.

[Murphy2012]

Ya, think I agree too. Just thinking of what the general consensus is....

[TurboRush]

Which has better long term potential in terms of job satisfaction, growth, pay potential? Which has more security? Which if either is going to make an investment in you, i.e., additional training? Which is going to look better on a resume 10 years from now? Which better aligns with what you want to do long term?

Just things to consider... Unos may suck now but if it has better, hour, potential growth opportunties, a few ****ty years when you are young makes up for it when you are 55.

[Murphy2012]

Right, I am taking all of that into consideration. I am being trained the same as any other manager that comes through the company with unos. I am not sure what kind of training (if any) is going to be available with the other place. There are 180 Unos all over this country, which would be nice when and if Jamie and I move. I could potentially make close to 80k, but that would be as a regional director. I am under the impression that GM's could make anywhere from 60-75k depending on store rank and business. At PPNE (other place), if the place I am opening for them works out, they intend to open more, in which I will turn into the regional director/manager. I am on salary on both places, so hours arent really an issue as most of you know. If this business in which I would be opening for PPNe doesnt work out, I have a promised position in the company at the same pay/benefit scale. At unos, I will always be working till those times at night (2-3 days/week) unless I get involved in the corporate offices. The first step would be to become an RD, which this regions RD is new and wont lose his job, hes REAL good at what he does. The corporate office is in boston, and I might be able to land something in one of those depts somewhere down the road. The PPNE job seems as thogh I will like it more now and down the road, and I believe my earning potential overall would be slightly higher through PPNE. That is assuming everything works out. Hugely though, are the hours. I really really dont want to work that late anymore. I have been for years now and it effects my personal life negatively.

[TrickyDik]

I reserve the right for comment later when I'm at work.

[2mprzya]

im in the same boat as you man terry...

[kb1043]

do both and make 86k a year. I know this seems impossible but if you think about the new advancements that scientists have made in cloning then this may not be as impossible as you may think.

In all seriousness, UNO's cant blame you for trying to better your life. Just dont make any decisions untill you are absolutely sure everything is set. Your an Intelligent person and Im sure that you know what you need to do to make yourself happy. Dont let someone elses feelings get in the way of your future. Although UNO's or anybody would be happy to have you as an employee, Im sure that they have a million applications and your position would be easily replaced (no offense).

[GrassyKnoll]

my vote: be a meat guy. More unique position, better experience, better pay. I wouldn't worry about 'burning' the bridge with Unos because like previously mentioned, they can't blame you for taking the higher pay. It's an easy position to replace and there are plenty of other restaurant chains should you decide to dive back into that sector.

[TrickyDik]

Well this is certainly a tough decision. To be honest it might help to sit down and right out Pros and Cons for each job. Make sure to include the first year, 5th year and 10th year on the job with what the potential is for each position.

Like Chris said, don't jump into the new job just because it has better hours and a little bit more money.

I'm not going to sit here and tell you which one to go after because that's impossible for any of us to do based on the information you have gave. All I can say is that I'm sure you'll make the choice that is best for you.

Just be happy you have a choice right now ;-)

[banned4life]

in the long run, 6k more is just a drop in the bucket. like tricky says, look 5 and 10 years down the line. UNOs is an enormous chain where you might work your way into a desk job some day, where the meathouse is a new growing company which only has 5 or 6 store fronts. I am not really sure what 6% of the company entails since it is not a public entity. Is it owned by only 1 person right now or is it an LLC? Also, I dont think ive ever seen a woman work at the meathouse, so I would be prepared to work in a sausage fest environment.

[TrickyDik]

I don't think it's the same meathouse you're thinking about Eugene, unless I'm wrong. Think it's just the way he used to describe it.

[Murphy2012]

I said it was PPNE (poultry products northeast) which actually supplies "the meathouse" all of their stuff. They basically want to open a market that an average joe/jane can go to daily and get food for themselves or there family, and not have to save a month to afford to do so. I think the meat house has excellent ****, but they are highly overpriced, especially for what they are paying for their stuff. Personally, I wont ever shop at the meathouse knowing their current buying prices. PPNE doesnt want to compete with them due to the business they give them yearly. I am not at liberty to speak of the amoutn but trust me, its enough to now want to **** with them. Either way. I gave you as much information as I could and I think it was pretty detailed, Nick. I wasn't looking for y'all to get seriously into it, thats why I disclosed only so much information. The straight details are only what you need to know, and I even came a bit closer in giving you how I felt about the companies and what relationships them and I share at the moment. Just looking for more so opinions, than what information I have or haven't shared.

[TrickyDik]

I gave you as much information as I could and I think it was pretty detailed, Nick. I wasn't looking for y'all to get seriously into it, thats why I disclosed only so much information.

I don't need any more information, already provided my input. It just looked like Eugene may be a little confused about what company you were speaking about. This thread seems to be pretty cordial so far, hope you don't have a problem but it seems based on your post there that I struck a nerve. Not sure how though. But since I was the only named it must have been me, whatever.

As I said before, no one here will be able to tell you what's best to do in this situation. Both seem to have pros and cons and both seem to show some promise for the future. Like I said, write out some immediate benifits or draw-backs for both jobs, then the same for 5 years down the road and then for 10 years down the road. It may help to clear your head of all the jumbled information (it helps me in similar situations). Then check out what you have written down and evaluate. It may not make it any simpler of a decision however. In the end, don't stress it too much. Both seem to be good opportunities so no matter which position you ultimately side with, you'll be moving forward in your career field.

I hope to be in a similar situation this summer sometime, having to chose between Police Departments. Of course I'll be happy with only one offer to get my foot in the door ;-) !!

[rogerdugans]

You've been given good advice already, and only one thing that has been alluded to but not stated in simple terms.
Being something of a simpleton, I'll do so. :)

Uno's is not likely to have hard feelings if you leave, as long as you give plenty of notice and inform them that this was a position you had applied for before them, and just not heard info about.

You seem to be doing fairly well there, so I would think it likely that IF you try out the other job, and decide it not to your liking you will probably be able to get back into Uno's.

No guarantee, but as long as you deal squarely with them it is likely.

[Murphy2012]

Thanks everyone!

[Murphy2012]

Took the job!

[rogerdugans]

Good luck, man.
I hope it works out, and that you were able to leave the old job on amicable terms.
Even if you never need to go back, it's just better that way, imo.

[Murphy2012]

Roger that!

[TurboRush]

The PPNE one? Good **** man.... if I ever get canned I'll look for you to hire me... :D

[TrickyDik]

Congrats on the new position Terry. You'll do good there, I'm sure of it.

[f1vlad]

Terry congrats, you should make to Nashua meet more often, can crash in my big house. If you're around on Saturday we're having a big party.