Linux

[jonny-rockets]

If you use it, or would like to say anything about it.. post up!

I use it very often, a dual screen dual OS setup at work running synergy (ubuntu hardy + xp pro).

At home I have ubuntu/linux mint. They are basically the same distro, but mint has the codecs all preinstalled.

I also use a gentoo based italian distribution called Sabayon, which has lots of proprietary apps & drivers preinstalled too. Fancy compiz crap (and icon) even in the live dvd environment.


:devil:

[unsakred]

i heart ubuntu

[Robk0000]

if you still are up for letting me borrow it for a bit anthony i would like to give it a try.

[jonny-rockets]

would you like a copy of ubuntu? i can make one right now while im at work :)

[Robk0000]

sure. along with some noob instructions. :)

[jonny-rockets]

ok well off the bat, you want to enter your BIOS right when your computer turns on, this is normally done by hitting F2, F10, DEL, etc.

If you have a DELL, they usually have an option to press F12, and choose a boot source, if you can do this, choose boot from CD/DVD and skip the next part.

Once your in BIOS you need to figure out how to change the boot device priority, basically you want the first boot device to be the CD drive. Try to do this from just following the onscreen menu options, if you get stuck let me know where you got stuck.

Once you have the linux image unloading from the CD, it will make you choose a language, and you want to "try ubuntu without installing anything to your computer".

that will load the live CD environment, basically loading an operating system from the CD drive instead of your hard drive.

once the liveCD is loaded, you can **** around in the liveCD environment, or if you want to go right into installing there is an icon to do so on the desktop.


Actually, now that i think about it, this new version of ubuntu contains some software called "WUBI" which will let you install all of linux from inside of windows, by pretending a single file is a hard drive partition.

I like the liveCD route though because it lets you try everything out before commiting.

[TurboRush]

You can do LiveCD's as Anthony suggestions, but its somewhat limited. If you start getting in to it and making configuration changes, etc, it's lost on a reboot. One of the biggest things for me was knowing that I could get Linux set up and have the look and feel I wanted. Something you can't accomplish with a liveCD unless you do it all without rebooting. It's like a read only way to play (sorta).

If you want to just try out flavors of Linux without formatting your HD or whatever I highly recommend you go and download VMServer (http://www.vmware.com/download/server/). You'll need a registration key, but its free. For those that don't know, VMServers creates virtual environments that you can run different OS' on top of your primary OS.

Once you've got VMServer installed you can download some distribution ISO's and install them like you would any other OS without any impact/risk to Windows.

Getting a Linux distro up and going inside VMServer is pretty straight forward once you've install VMServer, but if needed I can give you more detailed instructions.

I personally have XP setup to run inside VMServer for those things/applications that I absolutely need windows for, which are few and far in-between.

[WinterKnoll]

HEY, this is great, I've been a Ubuntu user for about a year and a half now (but I'm still a pretty big linux n00b). Running Hardy with Compiz Fusion on my Asus U6Sg notebook. Anyone know if there is support for the nVidia GeForce 9300m video card? The included driver works, but..everything runs like ****. I haven't found any nvidia drivers anywhere that actually support the card officially.

[Robk0000]

So if i do install this, how do i go about switching from vista to ubunt? Do i have to restart and switch boot option or what?

[TurboRush]

So if i do install this, how do i go about switching from vista to ubunt? Do i have to restart and switch boot option or what?

If this is directed at me... You would start VMServer like any other windows program. Then you can select which virtual machine you want to start within VMServer or you can go and create a new one and do an install.... once a virtual machine starts you can opt to make it full screen so it looks like it's the only OS running.

[WinterKnoll]

Ubuntu will install the GRUB bootloader, which will allow you to boot into Ubuntu/Vista upon startup.

[Robk0000]

okay that seems like it will be no problem.

Thanks

[jonny-rockets]

yeah you will get the GRUB bootloader unless you virtualize the OS, in which case you don't need it.

if you don't virtualize, and want a dual boot machine, usually ubuntu is smart enough to resize your windows partition and fit ubuntu on too, but occasionally the disk partition tool gets confused if you have multiple partitions on your drive (lots of times computers like dell, hp come with a recovery partition).

virtualization is a great option, especially if you have newer hardware that fully supports it, its super fast.

[jonny-rockets]

HEY, this is great, I've been a Ubuntu user for about a year and a half now (but I'm still a pretty big linux n00b). Running Hardy with Compiz Fusion on my Asus U6Sg notebook. Anyone know if there is support for the nVidia GeForce 9300m video card? The included driver works, but..everything runs like ****. I haven't found any nvidia drivers anywhere that actually support the card officially.

are you using the default driver or the one from the restricted drivers manager?

[rogerdugans]

Linux....
You man there is another operating system still?? :D

Main machine- still running SimplyMepis 6.5.
Web server (Apache/PHP/MySQL) also running SimplyMepis 6.5

Media Center pc (tv tuner, mp3, video) KnoppMyth

Laptop- dual boot Debian etch and SimplyMepis 7

Development/testing computer: changes distro often.

I try different linux distributions pretty regularly to see which is doing what, and I have used pretty much all of the big ones, and probably most of the smaller ones too, at this point. ;)

A lot of advantages, and quite a few disadvantages for some folks...
Biggest single problem category is computer gaming support: most of the uber-popular games require windows, and while many eventually CAN be run, it can take from 3 to 12 months to get them working sometimes.

But yeah, I've been running linux pretty much exclusively for about 7 years or so now.

One way or another, my next (big hardware) project is a car pc using linux.... whenever I get around to it and find a cheap enough small touch screen. :D

[TurboRush]

Never heard of SimplyMepis.... Never heard of it, might have to fire up a VM to check it out.

I should also mention I run Ubuntu 7.04 on my main machine and www.cadzima.com running on a ****ty computer I have laying around has Ubuntu 7.04 server edition.

[jonny-rockets]

Linux....

Media Center pc (tv tuner, mp3, video) KnoppMyth



is this the knoppix mythtv distro?

do you have a subscription so schedules direct?

i had a mythtv setup until the zap2it labs data direct service went down :(

[f1vlad]

I have Debian SteveJobbix edition of Linux :)

Yeah new work supplied Macbook Pro and I have been in love since.

Rogergungans is a good source for linux. One advice to you Robert, if you wanna setup dual boot, safest is to install windows first, then install Linux distribution and let it manage bootloader. Just don't wipe Windows partition, leave it be and Linux will handle that for you.

I haven't tried Ubuntu hardy, but one of my test compuers runs previous ubuntu and it's really impressive. If not my MAC, I'd definitely be using ubuntu as primary system.

And finally if you hate command line, probably you will not like Linux much. There are some times you are going to have to do it.

[rogerdugans]

Yes, KnoppMyth is a MythTV-centric distro.

I do subscribe to Schedules Direct, though miss getting the data free. ;)
In reality though- it's really not much money to pay for the service provided. Less than the amount Verizon gets for my listings from them, which are far less detailed.

Vlad is right on the money about installing linux AFTER windows if you want to do a dual-boot system:
Windows does not like having any os not made by MS on a computer, so it needs to be first.
Linux doesn't care. :)

SimplyMepis (usually just called Mepis) is quite good-
Based on Debian Etch, so it is reliable if not cutting edge, and has a boatload of software available for painless installation.

Ubuntu is the most commonly named distro right now (marketing money at work) and is good in many ways- even the KDE version (KUbuntu) is pretty good now with the latest version.
There are a few things about it I am not fond of however, so I usually don't suggest it to folks, personally. ;)

Side note- other methods of installing linux on a windows machine:

Ubuntu has Wubi, which is an installer within windows. I don't know too much about it, other than it is supposed to work pretty well and safely.

VirtualBox is another virtual machine system, free, and runs (as a server) in windows and linux.
Install that, and then you can install any distro you want.

In my case, I use it to run my gps software in a Windows XP virtual machine. ;)

[FreakBurrito]

*pops up head*
Go Vista!!
*fleeeee*

[jonny-rockets]

roger do you have the full ATSC tuner setup?

how many channels does that decode with comcast? i've heard they scramble some of the digital channels higher up but i have no hands on experience with the ATSC tuners.

[Robk0000]

I have Debian SteveJobbix edition of Linux :)

Yeah new work supplied Macbook Pro and I have been in love since.

Rogergungans is a good source for linux. One advice to you Robert, if you wanna setup dual boot, safest is to install windows first, then install Linux distribution and let it manage bootloader. Just don't wipe Windows partition, leave it be and Linux will handle that for you.

I haven't tried Ubuntu hardy, but one of my test compuers runs previous ubuntu and it's really impressive. If not my MAC, I'd definitely be using ubuntu as primary system.

And finally if you hate command line, probably you will not like Linux much. There are some times you are going to have to do it.


Im running Vista right now, and im not sure about the partioning setup atm. Im going to let it be and see how it goes.

[rogerdugans]

Ihave 2 tuners-
Hauppage PVR350 (SD)
PCHD HD-5500 (HD)

So I have support for pretty much anything- as long as its OTA (over the air)- ATSC, NTSC, PAL and QAM.

I don't use the hd card really, for a few reasons.
And I have Verizon tv service. ;)
Verizon is ALL digital now, and encrypts most channels other than what is locally available.
With all the HDTV changes going on, and the encryption standards and the LACK of tuner/pc video input cards with hdmi...well, my myth rig is mostly used for playback right now.
Still useful, as it can stream anything I have on the drives to any other linux pc on my network. :)

But I do most of my recording one of my TiVos.

[jonny-rockets]

aha!

yeah i only have an NTSC tuner as of now...

been pondering getting an ATSC tuner, but the setup gets much more complicated. i have a friend who has this completely setup, with an IR blaster and everthing that changes the channel so the mythtv box records from the correct source.. i don't know quite how i want to use it in teh future..

[Robk0000]

i had an atsc tuner but all i got was wmur in hd. :(

[rogerdugans]

Yep, with the changes going on with tv in the last few months and the next year or so...

Well, unless a person is REALLY into it for the sake of the project, or you already have the parts, I'd say hold off- HD broadcasts will end up the norm sooner or later (I think in the next year or so) and local channels will be ok.
Sooner or later SOMETHING will be done for computers- whether it is cable cards (like an HD TiVo and some tvs use), expansion cards allowing HDMI or component video input (expensive as hell) or even mods to STB units or something... sooner or later, it will really be worth messing with.

As for controlling an STB though- I picked up a CommandIR unit which allows me to use a remote to control up to 4 devices. :)

[Robk0000]

Yeah....i formated my hdd...and installed ubunto....****....thats all i have to say........................................****.

pretty cool though, although i cant use any programs that i wanted to keep, i lost all my pictures of my car. That sucks DOnkey KONG!
One ****ing thing i cannot figure out, HOW DO I CHANGE THE ****ING SCROLL SPEED!!!!!!!!!!

[f1vlad]

Yeah....i formated my hdd...and installed ubunto....****....thats all i have to say........................................****.

pretty cool though, although i cant use any programs that i wanted to keep, i lost all my pictures of my car. That sucks DOnkey KONG!
One ****ing thing i cannot figure out, HOW DO I CHANGE THE ****ING SCROLL SPEED!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds all too familiar, first linux experience for windows guy is usally pretty similar to yours :) I didn't read entire thread but from last week i recall people told you back up stuff.

It requires patience and commitment. Won't happen overnight.

If you need some help let me know.

[Robk0000]

Yeah, i re-reformated 5 minutes ago, i didnt have anything important except all my car photos which are online so no problem there, and a few games im going to have to redownload ~10 gbs...im going with vista and am going to do linux as well. I like it, but none of my programs are compatible. Linux was really cool, simple as hell and really easy to use. I couldnt run photoshop, topo, my printer is not compatible, my architectual program and ALL of my games. So maybe its just not for me. oh well. i tried. Let you know how this goes.

[jonny-rockets]

you might just need some config help to get everything to run.

there is a program called wine that is a windows virtual environment

to fix the mouse check out

system _> administration _> mouse.

should be something in that area.

your average windows program can run in linux, it just takes some config.

most of the time, people just use the open source alternatives for the same program.

but for games, yeah linux ain't that far. cedega lets you run them well but that's not free.

i keep windows around just for games..

[WinterKnoll]

Yup, if you look, you will find that there is an equivalent to almost every major program that exists in Windows (though you might have some difficulty finding a good architecture program for linux). Gimp is a really great alternative to Photoshop, and is just as powerful, if not more powerful in my opinion. It's definitely different from Windows and will take awhile to know your way around it, but it's worth it in my opinion. I haven't spent a dime on computer software in probably over a year now and I've booted into Windows..maybe a couple dozen times in the past year?

[f1vlad]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27373994@N02/2554310312/sizes/o/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2554310312_96fa609c8f_o.jpg

[Robk0000]

is a game? it came with chess and a really cool flying game but, i didnt get it for just a game. lol

[jonny-rockets]

lol wow.

i wouldn't bother trying to find an alternative for the architectural programs, rather i would run them in wine.

[rogerdugans]

Cedega and wine can help a lot with Windows gaming in linux.
CrossoverOffice does the same for Office apps and many other Windows programs, and also is getting into the gaming end of things.

Folks are working on compatibility layers for windows stuff all the time and it gets better and better every year- but is still not perfect.
Nor will it ever be, unless Microsoft wants it to be, of course. ;)

As for most software:
Yes, there are programs for nearly any task you can think of available in linux.
Usually multiple choices, in fact, but it can take some time to figure out which work best for you, and how to use them.

One thing I am always very happy to see is an increase in people talking about linux:
the more people try it, the more use it and the better the programs support is....

Companies need to see a viable market before they put much effort into it, and seeing threads like this one show growth for linux in the desktop market.

Yay. :)

[Robk0000]

i ****ed one of the drivers up or somthing when i reinstalled vista, it froze up alot. So i re-reformated, lol.

Now im on linux. Thats it. i will check out cedega and some more cool stuff. thanks for the input.

[jonny-rockets]

so if your linux do this


press alt-F2 (hold down alt while you press F2)

type gnome-terminal

then type

sudo apt-get install wine

[jonny-rockets]

when it says do you want to continue, press Y

[Robk0000]

it wont let me use the admin directory, im using it for something else apparently, im update about 150 files.

[Robk0000]

Alright its uploading wine. Thanks. I have two questions that you probably can answer as well

1, can i create a guest account? so anyone can go online and use word...limited access though

2, can i change the mouse scroll speed? All im finding is sensitivity and mouse speed, which i changed already, but when i scroll through websites i find myself cruising along WAY to fast.

[jonny-rockets]

1). yes i believe its also in the systems menu

system _> administation _> user accounts?

2). yes, do you use firefox? if so, i think you can even change this from within firefox.

open up a new tab, and type about:config then hit enter.

from there, find

mousewheel.withnokey.sysnumlines
mousewheel.withnokey.numlines



and change the values



The first if true uses the system value (3 by default), if false uses the value of the latter.
If you set the latter to 1 it will be somewhat slower.

[Robk0000]

i dont think its working, It said this stock.

sysnumlines = true
numlines = 1

i changed it to.

true
3

and it did nothing...i use firefox btw.

[jonny-rockets]

change it to

false
1

[Robk0000]

cool, thats soooooooooooooo much better. lol

now back to the guest thing, under admin i have users and groups, from there i can choose to add a person, but it requires a password, which i already tried, but i cannot get around it. Also, i got cedega and am going to try a few of my games.

[jonny-rockets]

ok, open up a terminal again, and type in

sudo su

it will ask for a password, use your usual password here.

now type:

passwd

this is to change your root password (needed for important modifications). i just use my normal logon password here. i think you enter it twice.

then type

exit

and

exit

again.

now you can unlock the user management module by typing in the root password in the popup.

[Robk0000]

okay, i entered my password and added a new user as unprvlidged but it still wants a password.

[jonny-rockets]

a password for the new user account.. right?

[Robk0000]

yes, but the user i want to have as a guest account, so there will be no password obviously.

[Robk0000]

Since i run my printer via usb on my computer, how can i set it up so that other computers on my network can print on it, the other computers are using vista btw.

[Robk0000]

apparently a add on called samba will help along with cups. ill give them a try and if i fail, oh well...

[Robk0000]

apt-get update
apt-get install cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client foomatic-bin samba smbclient gs-esp a2ps


im trying toi enter that into the gnome terminal and its saying dpkg was inturropted, you need to run it manually.

[jonny-rockets]

for the guest account i would just make the password the word 'guest' for now, we can figure that out later.

you might have to type

'sudo' before your apt-get calls, this means "run this command as the superuser".

samba is needed for windows shares, and that's how file and printer sharing works, so yup your spot on.

cups should be installed by default...

your doing everything in a more advanced way though fyi.


more on your printer, does it not show up if you open the printer manager thing under system administration?

you can add basically everything via a graphical interface with the synaptic package manager.

once you get that open, find the repositories menu inside, and add all the repositories.

[banned4life]

Since i run my printer via usb on my computer, how can i set it up so that other computers on my network can print on it, the other computers are using vista btw.

apparently a add on called samba will help along with cups. ill give them a try and if i fail, oh well...


this will only work if ur linux machine is on 24/7. otherwise you need a print server. samba is a windows protocol btw but can run on linux.

[Robk0000]

alright i didnt want to have to deal with the samba if i could get it to work or not.

So i went out and bought a 2nd hdd, 500 gb Sata drive.

I just installed Vista on the 500 gb, and am going to keep ubuntu on the 250gb. Lets say i want to use Vista next time, would i have to change 1st priority HDD boot up, or is there a way of choosing at the boot up screen?

[Robk0000]

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_f irst.htm?page=3

I think i may have to re-re-reformat my ubuntu hdd and then do it again, so i can get the option to dual boot. like it shows in the link.

[WinterKnoll]

You might not necessarily have to re-intall Ubuntu. This is what I would do (keep in mind I'm not THE most experienced person here with linux): I would install Vista on the other hard drive and then re-load the GRUB bootloader after Vista is installed. Technically, if you don't do anything to the hard drive linux is on, it should be fine, only Vista will steal the boot from GRUB and thus you won't be given an option to select the operating system when you start up. I would look for a tutorial on this, because I'm not sure even I could tell you exactly how to do it, but I know it's possible.

[jonny-rockets]

samba is super easy to install though...

just type sudo apt-get install samba

[jonny-rockets]

pretty sure its installed also by default...

[Robk0000]

yeah im getting samba, i found my problem why i couldnt get anything, i had to run atitude dkfg
or something like that. ill let you know where i stand in a few.

[Robk0000]

well i got samba, and i closed the window was closed by accident, how do i find it and run it?

[jonny-rockets]

samba is just a communications protocol..

it should be used automatically when you try to do something like mount a windows share..

since you had to run dkfg, it sounds like your package manager was interrupted or something? anyways sounds like you fixed it.


what is your printer model?

[jonny-rockets]

aha!

yeah i only have an NTSC tuner as of now...

been pondering getting an ATSC tuner, but the setup gets much more complicated. i have a friend who has this completely setup, with an IR blaster and everthing that changes the channel so the mythtv box records from the correct source.. i don't know quite how i want to use it in teh future..

caved and bought an ATSC-QAM tuner. i couldn't resist, $40 w/ free shipping!

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Hauppauge-WinTV-HVR-1250-Hybrid-Video-Recorder-1196/sem/rpsm/oid/204447/catOid/-13043/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do?linkid=j24724628&affiliateid=k2315&mid=999&afsrc=1

[TurboRush]

VMServer on Linux...

So my stand alone server is running out of juice and there are a couple of apps I want to migrate to the site but it just doesn't have the power.

SO... I've really started putting together a fully configured Linux virtual machine on my main computer. I am more impressed with VMServer then I was before. I've set it up so the slice has about 1g of RAM and can utilize both CPU's. After some tweeking everything in the slice flys and with no perceivable impact to the Host OS. Even when I max out the slice and am seeing both CPU's running at 70% - 80% in the slice everything still runs lightening quick on the Host CPU. When I take a look at top during these times the VMServer process never occupies more than the gig of memory it has allotted and the host CPU's are being utilized significantly less than the slice.

I still need to do some more research to see what security flaws are out there but I think it's a true testament to Linux and VMServer.

[jonny-rockets]

virtualization is incredible stuff.

i just wish my CPU was recent enough to virtualize @ the hardware layer.

i can wait a couple months before i build another.

this one is from sophomore year of college!

[Robk0000]

I have a deskjet 952C, not wireless just plugged in via usb.

[jonny-rockets]

if you type

http://localhost:631

into a browser

do you see the cups page?

[jonny-rockets]

and before, you tried installing the printer though the add new printer icon under

system_>administration_>printing?

[jonny-rockets]

if its failing still, and you've tried the above steps, you can try downloading

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hplip/hplip-2.8.5.run

and following the instructions here:

http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/install/index.html

[Robk0000]

i added the printer through cups. i dont know if it works though i will have to wait for my dad to bring back the laptop.

[FreakBurrito]

virtualization is incredible stuff.

i just wish my CPU was recent enough to virtualize @ the hardware layer.

i can wait a couple months before i build another.

this one is from sophomore year of college!


LOL I was in the same boat as you. Started building a Socket A System in my Junior year and eventually had replaced everything in it. When the Graphics card died last summer I just waited and dropped 2 grand on my current desktop in December. It's screaming fast.

[rogerdugans]

Wow, lots of new activity since I was last in here. :)

A couple of points of information-
Samba is an Open Source ( http://us3.samba.org/samba/)/Free Software (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) suite that has, since 1992 (http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/10years.html), provided file and print services to all manner of SMB/CIFS clients, including the numerous versions of Microsoft Windows operating systems.

Samba IS easy to install, not always so easy to configure... It has gotten much easier (and more powerful) in recent years though, and my guess is that Ubuntu will do a damn good job with it for you.

HPLIP support for 952c (http://hplip.sourceforge.net/models/deskjet/deskjet_952c.html) looks fine, so you should have no problems setting it up once HPLIP is running.

Again, I don't like Ubuntu personally, so can't give as much specific advice as has been given already, but I WILL say that Ubuntu does a ggreat job in a lot of ways, and making things generally much easier for those new to linux is a strong point.

One Ubuntu point: as much as possible, only install software using the built-in package management systems- apt, aptitude, whatever they are using.
It IS possible to use non-specific software as well, but sometimes the changes made to Ubuntu throw software a curveball and cause problems.

As for virtual machine stuff- yeah, the newer VMWare stuff is good, but if you are messing with virtual machines and haven't yet, I suggest trying VirtualBox out-
lacks some features and abilities VMWare has, and probably not ready for enterprise server duty (which VMWare most definitely IS) but for more casual, experimental use, I find it to be excellent and faster than VMWare.

[WinterKnoll]

I was going to suggest VirtualBox as well, I'm pretty new to virtualization, but I found it very easy to use and configure just for experimental purposes. One of the coolest things is being able to throw Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Ubuntu all on different sides of a 3d cube using Compiz.

[f1vlad]

I still need to do some more research to see what security flaws are out there but I think it's a true testament to Linux and VMServer.

Why would you wanna do that? I don't really understand, for more security or something or because you can't configure some devices for linux?

Well since this thread is about linux I invite y'all to one of the children-websites of my employer: http://www.linux.com/ :) (http://www.linux.com/distributions/ -- most popular distribution review)

[jonny-rockets]

who are you working for nowadays vlad?

[f1vlad]

who are you working for nowadays vlad?

I work for sourceforge.net. I noticed from your remarks on the forum that you are a big open source fan.

[jonny-rockets]

wow that's sweet!

i constantly download stuff from there, great resource

how did you land that job? is it all online? or is there some local branch or something?

[Robk0000]

the gurus on the ubuntu forum said i cant add a guest account...

but my dual booting is working

[rogerdugans]

Not sure what is up with that- you SHOULD be able to add any accounts you want, basically.

Setting up an account with no password is another matter- pretty much not allowed for security reasons.

You can, of course, make the password "guest " as well as the username though. :)

[jonny-rockets]

well i've done it before.. so i would say they are wrong.

just make it username and password guest.

[Robk0000]

when i try to configure wine, the window appears to be oversized for the screen, the letters are massive and i cannot see the whole window. how do i zoom out, for lack of a better word.

[f1vlad]

when i try to configure wine, the window appears to be oversized for the screen, the letters are massive and i cannot see the whole window. how do i zoom out, for lack of a better word.

Did up update wine? There's 1.0 available:

http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/17/1547241

[jonny-rockets]

lol. took long enough.

15 years in development before the stable release.

rob - sounds like a strange problem.

i think the wine version in the ubuntu repository is not v1.0 but .99.7 or something.

i would wait til 1.0 comes out and just update through the ubuntu package management system

[Robk0000]

no, im getting it now though.

[Robk0000]

im getting 1.0

[f1vlad]

lol. took long enough.

15 years in development before the stable release.

rob - sounds like a strange problem.

i think the wine version in the ubuntu repository is not v1.0 but .99.7 or something.

i would wait til 1.0 comes out and just update through the ubuntu package management system

Good news nevertheless